Tuesday, March 31, 2009

Communicating without words

In the book Animals and Why They Matter, Midgley gives a quote from R.C. Frey, “Animals cannot have rights because they cannot have interests. They cannot have interests because they cannot have desires or emotions. They cannot have desires or emotions because they cannot have the thoughts required for them. And they cannot have those thoughts because they cannot speak. From my point of view, I disagree with Frey and believe it does not make sense. Frey is only basing rights and interests on speech. He makes it feel like the only way to have rights and interests is to communicate with words. In contrast, a human or even animals do not have to always use words to communicate. They can use gestures or emotions to communicate as well. For example, babies do not use speech to communicate their interest or emotion. Does that mean they have no rights? Society considers babies to have rights, so what is the difference between a baby that cannot talk and an animal that cannot talk? It is clear that animals have interests and emotions. A dog shows emotion of excitement by wagging its tail. Also, a dog shows interest in wanting to go on a walk by holding his leash and standing by the door. Doesn’t this give prove that animals, dogs, have interests even though they do not use words to communicate?

3 comments:

  1. I agree with this. The statement that animals can not have rights because they can not speak is absurd to me. Just because someone can not speak does not mean that they do not have emotions or interests. Babies have rights and I don't think anyone would consider babies to not have rights just because they can not speak. So what is the difference? Animals have their own way of showing emotions and it is clear to us that they have emotions. Each species has its own way of communicating, even though words might not be used.

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  2. As Christine and Carley said, I totally believe Frey is way off on his idea. My only question is whether he means, "Animals cant have right because they do not speak", or "Animals do not have rights because they do not have the capacity to speak, nor will they ever be able to speak." I mention this because we have began to talk about human infants. Yes of course we give infants rights, and yes they cannot YET speak. Although I do not agree with Frey at all (because I believe animals do have interests), the difference for him might come in the word YET. Unlike dogs, or cats, infants do have the potential to develop speech. They do not speak simply because they are not old enough. Animals on the other hand are physically incapable of ever developing speech within their lifetime. I guess what I am trying to say is that comparing infants and animals on the subject of speech isn't exactly a level playing field.

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  3. I agree with this as well, speaking doesn't mean everything. All humans have rights but not all humans can talk so giving someone or something rights shouldn't be based on communicating just by talking. I wouldn't compare infants to animals but i don't think rights should be based on your ability to speak.

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